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Can we get the OOS schedule posted on here?.We did not want to put it on here without permission from the admins.

The payout format will be coming soon,hopefully the sponsorship package we were promised will be worked out later this week and it will help us in determining how much the races pay.

We've got several drivers already chomping at the bit to be part of this deal.A couple world champions and several track champions are already on board with the OOS.

We are willing to work with other outlaw promoters as long as we dont step on any established races or already scheduled "big events".

L8ER
T8ER (OOS co-director)

Alright, enough is enough, we have talked to many tracks and series promoters and they love what we have done, and honestly they can not believe what we have done without any sponsors or money. They have told us to stay out of these things, so we have, but one more post to speak our mind is in order.We have done this becuase we can prove to the tracks what the outlaws can offer them. People say we are not proven, what about the 2 Anderson races last season guys, we took a track that was having a bad year, hasn't ran outlaws in 5 years, and we packed the place twice, not bad for people that don't know what they are doing. This season we have been the good guys, that is why tracks are willing to work with us, we are willing to work with them. We understand the economy is down, that is what we offer this series. Add it up guys, 10 races compared to 30, 1500 to win 100 to start, compare with 600 to win and 35 to start on most nights, tires will be cheaper, payouts better, plus you can go and have fun, fell like you are wanted at the track, be respected, make a little money, run new tracks, sounds good to us. If you add the cost to run our series, including travel and hotel costs, it is still less then 1/2 of what it would cost to run the Speedrome. If you guys honestly think it is that easy, all you have to do is make a few phone calls, and the thing is done you are in for a rude awakening. We have spent thousands of hours online, on the phone, talking to people and tracks from all over the country, and we feel we did a fine job, not perfect, but what is perfect, nothing. We understand that no series will ever have a 100% approval rating, but with the millions of views, thousands of posts, hundreds of members on this site, only 3 are unhappy, pretty darn close to perfect ain't it. Next season the IOFS people are going to have a great time traveling, exciting new fans, bringing in new drivers, welcoming back some old greats, and you know, it will happen with or without you three guys. This series will open the Midwest up to true figure-8 racing, run what you got, let them hang and go for it. This series will offer drivers and another avenue for racing, young and old drivers alike. Drivers from CA, WA, FL, MI, OH, WI, IL, KY, IN, IO, and NY have all expressed interest in this series. We talk to people from all over the world, and everyone loves it except you 3. That is fine for us, we do not mind negitive post, it gives us idea of what to work on, but it all the rambling, nothing worth listening to has been said. You guys want to run on Sept. 5th and October 10th, well it will never happen, hears why, it is common sence. Sept 5th, on of Jeffersonville biggest nights, Speedrome Championships weekend, with the working agreement that they have, Speedrome will never allow Sportsdrome to run that night, and Sportsdrome won't run two big shows/big payouts in one evening. That is why outlaws will not run on the 10th, they have a huge payout for the 300, they are not going to be able to afford to run the outlaws that night unless you all run for free. These are things that you have to consider. Along with about 100 hundred things, try it, it won't work, it isn't that easy. This series will offer drivers from all generations a chance to run, to compete against each other, look at the drivers that do not race anymore, but want to, or have cars but just won't race at the local track every week, names like St. John, Fenwick, Lee, Douthitt, Turner, Bedell, Taylor, Hargraves, Shakelford, Knuass, Green, Hizer, Richee, Stone, Kirby, Lord, Basham, Russ, Ford, and then the new guys looking for some fun like Miller, Knuass, Dickens, Riddle, Swinford, Maxwell, Kriesher, and many more. You all keep saying that we won't have cars, we will be just find. The IOFS is doing fine, we will see you all at the races, we want to say thanks to everyone that supports us, and to everyone that called this weekend and talked with us and let us know that they support us 100%, just didn't want to listen to the post anymore. When you guys a legitimate arguement, get with us, we will listen, until then good luck. Sorry for going so long, but just a few more things, This is a series for figure-8 racing, any true fan of figure-8 racing understand that something has to be done, something new, figure-8 racing has been slowly dying for years, with this series, it has a new light, and new beginning, and a bright future. You call yourself a figure-8 fan, then how can you put something down that is only going to improve your sport in the long run. This thing has stretched from coast to coast already, getting figure-8 racing in magazines, on websites, that have never heard of it before. You may not agree with everything we do and say, but if you do not appreciate it, then how can you call yourself a fan. When/if you all try to get a series, then you will appreciate it a little more. Artie what tracks you going to get, Beech Bend won't do it, Sportsdrome will be hard due to Speedrome, and you always dog KMS on circle track talk, not off to a good start. Thanks for everyone that supports, we will see you at the races in 2009. Sorry it was so long, maybe we can move forward and forget about the negitivity, and look ahead to a great 2009 racing season for everyone involved with figure-8 racing.

You are 100% correct.... I felt like the Sportsdrome guys were not considered at all for the Internet Outlaw Figure 8 Series. We were not gonna be missed in his car count, therefor we were not a factor. When in all reality, he is gonna need every single car he can get to make this work! When I worked on a deal to get a good car to run at Speedrome and the IOFS and the IOFS schedules against my biggest races of the year, you expect me not to be mad...
I have been making enemies for years! I don't need any funking internet site to do that! lmao... JC has plenty of enemies and has been a successful promoter? I should be able to set the world on fire! lol.

Facts of the IOFS....
It was really pushed when Charlie was banned from Speedrome.
The only track willing to help is Anderson.
It will fail....

I think a series with this economy is rediculous! It should have been a few races at a few tracks and run at Speedrome when available. Then Sportsdrome and Speedrome would have helped you...

As for being jealous....I say this with a big smile on my face!
You have disrepected the 2 greatest figure 8 tracks in the country....At the Promoters meetings, you are being laughed at.... With out the help from these 2 tracks, you will not go anywhere!
I am ALL about running cars at new tracks. Who do think was responsible for getting our cars up to Speedrome and Anderson???? It wasn't you guys! I have pushed getiing more cars to run at Beechbend on the Holiday week ends. I have pushed to get more cars at KMS for Holiday week ends. I have been successful at getting cars to come and race at other tracks and am damn proud of it!

The whole thing that riled all this up was the deleting of post...
In order for you to be successful, you must be able to hear all sides....Not olny were you deleting post....You aren't bias....Now you have moderated your Mom and made her quit posting! lol.

Good Luck on the dark side!

The ONLY reason you packed the House at Anderson was the School Bus Figure 8.
You had about 12 cars, 4 of them street stocks and 2 DNS.... What a show! All though the finish was exciting, the race sucked.

I have not dogged KMS... Simply put by me and all others that have raced there said that the configuration sucks.... If it didn't, why is Scott wanting to change the configuration? Duh....

Yes, all we have to do is make phone calls and get races... When we will have MG and JC working with us, we will get more races.

As for Beechbend.... They are interested in talking to me. Dallas and I are not just family, we are friends from my childhood....I think I can make it work out.

(This season we have been the good guys, that is why tracks are willing to work with us, we are willing to work with them) Does that mean the other guys are not good? If so, who are the bad guys? Would you be talking about JC again?

Good Luck Artie, With your attitude good luck, this whole deal started starting in December of 2007. It got big and picked up steam after 2 shows at Anderson, which brought got more spectators, and news then your big race. We would support any track, and have tried to talk with Speedrome and Sportsdrome, but to no avail. We have tracks supporting us, obviously, look at the schedule, 5 states, several tracks. Not to bad for your first year. From now on we are going to focus on making our series the best for everyone, and not justifing ourselves to people, becuase we need not to. The IOFS is here, and it is here to stay. With great tracks like Anderson, Plymouth, Slinger, Kentucky, Beech Bend, and good people who believe in us from all the tracks on the schedule and all the other tracks that we have talked to. We will be fine, and I can promise all the drivers, fans, supporters of the IOFS we will be around for many years to come. There have been a few tracks that have own the limelight of figure-8 racing for many years, but if you look at the current state of figure-8 racing, expecialy outlaw/late-model racing, it is time for a change, and we offer that. Our drivers, fans, tracks, everyone involved with the IOFS will recieve the proper respect owed to them, we will have fun, put on great shows, and build something to be proud of. Something that the figure-8 community can be proud of. Competition is good for everyone, causes higher purses, lower cost, and better yet, better actions, better treatment. We are new, we are young, this is a first year, but look at what we have accomplished already. For any figure-8 racing fan, positive, or negitive, if you look at the future of figure-8 racing, it looks brighter then it has for several years. More names, new cars, new and old drivers, everything looks brighter. The best case is we all work together, we have tried, but they have not, so maybe the finger should not be pointed so much at us. Thanks to everyone who supports the IOFS either on the web or at home. We will make the 2009 season a very affordable, enjoyable, and unforgettable season. Thanks.

Charlie Hargraves
IOFS Series Director

To be 100% honest with both of you guys, I don not care who does what. All i know is figure 8 racing is in bad trouble. not sure what got delete because i was busy all weekend. I kow the problem is fixed on my board, i am the only one deleteing now. As a promoter, I do know how difficult it is to get dates. Welcome to my world now. By the way both of you are wrong on the 4th of july thing in anderson. It was the Fire Works. They always have big crowds because they always have good fireworks. Trust me i grew up at that rack. Put the word firworks in the schedule the place fills up quick. The extra advertising totally packed the house. When i was a kid they always had namars midgets on that night and filled the place. So we can end that argument

Drivers being excluded, guess what every single points running driver is excluded. I see that as even. When either one of you guys need help yell, cuz something here has to happen. Here is the funniest thing about all this BS. artie gets a southern series going, charlie gets another series going, majority of the drivers show up to the 3hour because it is the highest paying show in the county. Putting the car count back over 50, JC Wins again.

Exactly why JC will help with our races...It will be good for him, Speedrome and Figure 8 racing....
If I can ever convince the both of them to put their heads together and get this Outlaw/ Extreme 8 thing together, the figure 8 world will be awesome!

I don't need luck....I have good promoters on my side!

( which brought got more spectators, and news then your big race.)
(The best case is we all work together, we have tried, but they have not, so maybe the finger should not be pointed so much at us.)
I thought this wasn't about going against other tracks and here you are throwing diggs out to other tracks....Hmmmmm...

I have set back and watched this thing grow, the IOFS is doing great things with what they have to work with. The bad thing is for years people have been trying to get something going, drivers and fans have been crying over not having another choice, and now you do, and a few of them are trying to ruin it. What is the IOFS got on here and said, ok thats it, 2009 is not going to happen, then you all would bash them for not running. The fact of the matter is, rather or not this is all becuase of whatever happened at the speedrome, all I can say is FINALLY, someone have the balls to stand up and do something. This is a series for you, support it, or it is back to the same old thing every weekend. And Artie, on your high horse talking about the dromes, you didn't even support the 4 1-hours at the speedrome last season, you didn't run every race at the sportsdrome in 2008, how can you get on here and talk about anyone, you are just making yourself look bad. How can you say that your responsible for anything, when you don't even compete in it. The IOFS may not be everyone cup of tea, but it is for most, and compared to the past, this year looks better for figure-8 nationwide. Everyone keeps saying that the two biggest figure-8 tracks are the dromes, how can you justify that, by car counts, hell then colorado is, you have riverhead, evergreen, citrus county, speedrome, flatrock, toledo, sportsdrome all in the same boat 14-18 cars on an regular night, they just have a few bigger shows each year, thats all. 2009 will be great for figure-8 racing, Speedrome, Sportsdrome, and the IOFS will be around for years, just best if they would all work together, and from the sounds of things, it is just a few people that are getting in the way, and it is not the IOFS. Obvisously, just look at their schedule, 4-5 states, a number of tracks, how many dates does and tracks does the world figure-8 tour have, you do the math........

ok artie would have made all the 1 hours, but he blew his motor the night before the fiirst race. he blew it on the 2nd lap of qualifying after he set a new track record. I can defend that point i was there that night. I think the other race he missed he was wrecked the night before at the sportsdrome. No one is going to win anything here on a message board.